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The Guardian ClimateGate “Debate” 14 July 2010 by Piers Corbyn July 15, 2010

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The Guardian ClimateGate “Debate” 14 July 2010 by Piers Corbyn

Via Climate Realists
July 15, 2010

Continuing cover-up and Dodging of the Science

The Guardian ClimateGate ‘Debate’ held at the RIBA London on 14 July*, organized by the Guardian and chaired by George Monbiot in full biased form was significant not for its predicted gross imbalance in debate but more for evident disquiet over the matter from card-carrying Guardian readers** and the continuing utter scientific bankruptcy of the Global Warmers.

ClimateGate “Debate” (Link now ended)

Monbiot started with his standard pejorative references to Climate Change Deniers (as in Holocaust Deniers) and then presentations proceeded with ‘Warmers’ including Monbiot outnumbering by 4 to 2 the more objective (Realist) speakers who had to endure somewhat negative introductions lest some of the audience pay them too much attention.

There were the expected wishy-washy meanderings and praise of whitewash by George Monbiot, Prof Trevor Davies pro-vice chancellor of the University of East Anglia, Prof Bob Watson former head of IPCC, and Fred Pearce environment apologist, which seemed to amount to insistence that fraud isn’t fraud if you only select rather than change data!

One can only wonder if the Guardian take the same view of tax fraud when a banker or politician only declares 25% of his income stream for tax purposes?! [“With regret we note their somewhat non-transparent procedures”, they would doubtless rage.]

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1. Oliver K. Manuel - July 15, 2010

Decades of filth in government-sponsored science are rising to the surface from beneath the tip of the Climategate iceberg scandal.

Leaders of the scientific community seem to be running for cover.

A news report in the 14 July 2010 issue of PhysOrg, “Unravelling the Mystery of Massive Star Birth: All Stars are Born the Same Way”


Has this drawing of the star’s formation on a compact object that emits jets axially, just like a neutron star:

That is almost exactly the mechanism that was first proposed in 1975 for the birth of the Sun – Earth’s heat source:


See “Earth’s heat source – the Sun”, Energy & Environment 20 (2009) 131-144: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0905.0704

With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
Former NASA Principal
Investigator for Apollo

2. CriticalThinker - July 18, 2010

Professor Manuel,

I found your piece “Earth’s heat source – the Sun” http://arxiv.org/pdf/0905.0704 to be very interesting.

Would you care to comment as to why NASA’s predictions for Solar Cycle 24 were so far off the mark?

(I think I read somewhere that they said Cycle 24 was going to be extremely active, but instead the Sun seems to be on the brink of grand minimum as predicted by planetary movements.)

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