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Dissent, discussion over cause of global warming January 4, 2009

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Dissent, discussion over cause of global warming


By Pete Chagnon, One News Now

The debate over global warming heated up in 2008, with prominent meteorologists, scientists, and environmentalists dissenting from the so-called consensus for “manmade” global warming. First there was John Coleman—the founder of the Weather Channel. In a speech delivered in March, Coleman questioned the validity of so-called “manmade” global warming. He also called into question the notion of a carbon credit system and stated that those who sell them could be committing financial fraud. “There is no human-caused global warming as a result of CO2—and all these carbon credits, which they’re selling for millions of dollars, are based on CO2 forcing, they call it, causing global warming,” said Coleman. “Well, that’s not valid, and they’ve got to know it—and if they know it and they’re selling those carbon credits, aren’t they committing financial fraud?”

In May, OneNewsNow talked with AccuWeather.com senior meteorologist Joe Bastardi, who posted an open letter to the presidential candidates urging them to have an honest debate with top scientists from both sides of the global-warming argument. “People are trying to play God by saying, ‘Oh, this computer model told me 50 years from now that this is going to happen.’ That’s an arguable point; I think we should debate it,” said Bastardi. “But to say that someone has absolute knowledge of the future seems to me to be playing something more than a mortal—and I’m in the business of forecasting the weather.” Bastardi wrote in his open letter that the recent cold winter of 2007 may be a preview of what is coming. And he argued that making it illegal to obtain oil from an area that could wean America from foreign oil because of a “problem that may not exist” should show people that this position is not driven by science but what may be “an almost fanatical madness.”

In June, OneNewsNow heard from noted environmentalist and author Lawrence Solomon, who pointed out that extremely low sunspot activity and extended periods of no sunspot activity experienced in 2008 could point to a cooling trend. “There has been a coincidence over the centuries of an absence of sunspots correlating with very cold temperatures and a presence of sunspots corresponding to a warm period,” he explained. Solomon also noted that temperatures have dropped by more than a half a degree centigrade last year, which is equivalent to more than a century’s worth of warming.

Another natural fluctuation is arctic sea ice. In 2007, arctic sea ice hit a summertime low of 1.65 million square miles. However, at that same time in 2008 there were 2.03 million square miles of the ice. Scientist Joseph D’Aleo of IceCap.us weighed in on the situation. “I don’t believe it has anything at all to do with global warming, or at least carbon dioxide or greenhouse gases,” D’Aleo offered. “It’s a normal cyclical change that we’ve observed in the Arctic going back centuries.”The arctic ice diminished in the [19]30s, ‘40s, and ‘50s. It diminished in the 1800s, so much so that the Northwest Passage was open and they were catching cod fish off of Siberia.” D’Aleo noted that the Pacific Ocean has cooled to pre-1977 temperatures, and he believes the Atlantic will follow within a decade. He added that sea ice will recover and possibly increase as a result.

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1. Dash RipRock III - January 4, 2009

Al Gore has really stepped in it this time. He could have spent the rest of his global warming career collecting money by spreading fear over events that were a century or at least half century in the future. Oh, but that wasn’t good enough for Big Al. He’s now told the biggest global warming whopper of his alarmist career:


When I heard this I assumed it was a rumor started by skeptics to make Gore look bad. It wasn’t until I viewed the video that I realized what Gore had done. Gore has started a five year credibility countdown timer ticking and it’s up to all of us to make sure that he is held accountable and proven to be a fraud when his dire prediction aimed at drumming up support doesn’t come close to coming true.

The mainstream media isn’t going to let this video see the light of day because they, unlike Al, understand the precarious position in which he has placed himself.

It is therefore up to us to spread the word about Big Al’s prediction. He must be exposed for the fear mongering opportunist that he has become.

To view the video, please visit the following site and click on the picture of Big Al holding up five fingers.


While visiting this site, you might want to watch a preview of the film “Not Evil, Just wrong” or watch “The Great Global Warming Swindle” which is found in the video section. Happy Viewing!!!

2. USpace - January 4, 2009

Throughout history cold periods have been the worst times for humanity, warm ones have been better for human prosperity.

The CNN Meteorologist saying that the Man-Made Climate Change theory is “arrogant” is a great advancement in the cause of educating the masses with the truth. Hopefully more of the MSM will start speaking out. The word is spreading, tell all your friends and family, and tell them to do the same.

Gore and his Man-Bear-Pig. The politicians on board with this scam must be simply out of their minds.
For one thing, there’s plenty of oil and NG, we just need to drill for it and refine it. Also expand and improve nuclear, wind, hydro, solar and hemp fuel.

Can’t anybody talk some sense into Gore, McCain, Bush and Obama about how temperatures rise first, and THEN carbon-dioxide levels rise.
Carbon-dioxide doesn’t cause warming, sun activity does, warming causes CO2 levels to rise.
absurd thought –
God of the Universe says
humans’ breath is poison

just one child hurts the world
worse than a jet engine

absurd thought –
God of the Universe says
don’t research all theories

put an end to all debate
silence all your critics

absurd thought –
God of the Universe says
spread hysteria

wildly exaggerate
scare little kids not ready

absurd thought –
God of the Universe says
keep people all worked up

about global warming
despite inconvenient facts
All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. Without freedom of speech there can be no real freedom.
The Great Global Warming Scam Movie
Philosophy of Liberty Cartoon


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