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Mr Obama, if you have the urge to bankrupt an industry, why not bankrupt Big Tobacco instead of Big Coal? December 20, 2008

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Mr Obama, if you have the urge to bankrupt an industry, why not bankrupt Big Tobacco instead of Big Coal?

Dear Mr Obama

I was very surprised to learn recently that you had suggested bankrupting coal plants and that you wanted to declare carbon dioxide a dangerous pollutant. Not only is carbon dioxide not a pollutant, but without it life on earth would cease to exit.

I found it rather ironic that you are a smoker, who spends money on purposefully inhaling carcinogenic substances and yet you want declare c02 a dangerous pollutant and bankrupt coal plants. Is it wise to bankrupt the coal industry when the USA is experiencing one of its coldest winters this century?

Climate changes, always has and always will. Whilst it may make you feel all warm and fuzzy thinking that by bankrupting Coal plants you will save the polar bears, this is simply not true. This year may end up to be the coldest year this century and yet c02 levels are at a record high. Something else is driving the climate.

I suggest you plot a temperature graph and look at the data yourself  instead of taking advice from Al Gore, who is profiting quite nicely from his unnecessary scaremongering. The world is no warmer today than it was in 1998. That doesn’t sound like catastrophic global warming. Natural forces  clearly have had a larger impact on the climate than human c02.

Whilst you and your fellow smokers may think it is your right to suicide by lung cancer, the fact is that smokers affect those around them too.

Some of the environmental impacts of cigarette butts:

-Cigarette butts lying in the streets and gutters are carried via stormwater directly into  harbors, beaches and rivers.
-Cigarette butts can take up to 12 months to break down in freshwater and up to 5 years to break down in seawater.
-Littered butts seriously reduce the aesthetic quality of any environment.
-Butts have been found in the stomachs of young birds, sea turtles and other marine creatures.

The science is settled and the debate is over. Tobacco smoke contains around 4,000 chemicals, made up of particles and gases, about 60 of which are known to cause cancer. Smoking causes lung cancer and other nasty diseases and is incredibly bad for the environment.

Smoking kills 5.4 million people per year. That’s like one jumbo jet going down every hour. The time to act is now. Do it for yourself and your wife and kids so that they will have a husband and father who will live longer to be with them.

You have the power to ban/bankrupt one of the world’s leading killers.



1. Ralph Baker - February 2, 2009

I’ll never vote for whoever authored those words, for he/she is no libertarian. This nation’s Founding Fathers granted the citizenry certain common rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is implied that one may commit slow suicide through the consumption of tobacco products. Hence, there should be absolutely no taxation, regulation and/or restrictions of any kind applied to tobacco commerce. Same with alcoholic beverages. All who survived birth will die eventually, just a matter of when and how. That’s the carbon cycle at work, and it cannot be stopped. Get out of smokers’ lives, wallets, etc., i.e., if you don’t like smoking – don’t smoke. Plain and simple. Thanks very much.

2. honestclimate - February 2, 2009

I have no problem with a mentally challenged minority wanting to suicide. Problem is it also affects all those around them.
What about the civil liberties of those who unwillingly have to inhale cancer fumes from a selfish/suicidal minority?

3. Ralph Baker - February 2, 2009

Hello, HonestClimate! So YOU are the author of the primary article. Perfect! I assume that you are a non-smoker, too. Welcome to the club! OK, what about the civil liberties of non-smokers like us? Let’s see….

If a specific ‘smoking allowed’ location is the ONLY vendor of of our chosen enjoyment, we must tolerate the atmosphere created by the location’s owner who has his/her own reasons for attracting the desired clientele. If this atmosphere isn’t suitable and our target can be had in a ‘non-smoking’ location, we can choose our way to THAT location and continue our progress. There’s no license to impose our will everywhere we go. Self-respect is not free; it comes only by respecting the rights of others. Tyranny is the weapon of killjoys; I’d rather mind my own business than be antisocial. Thanks again.

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