Turning point in global warming’s war September 11, 2009
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Turning point in global warming’s war
By Thomas Fuller
SF Environmental Policy Examiner, September 10, 2009
The past ten years have seen the first round of the scientific debate about global warming. It has been accompanied by a parallel, but not equal, debate on the same issue in politics, popular media, law and engineering.
In 1988 the ‘first salvo’ (not the first mention, obviously) was fired at a Congressional hearing, when Dr. James Hansen testified that human emissions of CO2, a greenhouse gas, were leading to dangerously high concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere, and that this would lead to global warming.
The past 10 years has been a fairly normal scientific debate where elements of the theory and its practical evolution in our environment have been charted, discussed and debated. We now have the equivalent of the opening arguments from either side done and dusted, and it’s time for Round 2. But because of the parallel debates and the partisan nature of politics today, it’s devilishly hard to score Round 1. Both sides are claiming victory, and both sides are premature.
The worried warmists point to evidence that the earth has warmed in tandem with our growing emissions of CO2, and that many elements of our planet’s climate have responded as predicted by the theory of global warming–for example, that the Arctic would warm first and quickest. Skeptics respond by noting that temperatures have stalled for a decade despite copious emissions of CO2, and many elements of global warming theory have not materialised as expected–such as the signature warm spot 10 km high in the tropical troposphere.
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Excerpts from a scientific paper by Dr Martin Hertzberg September 10, 2009
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Excerpts from a scientific paper by Dr Martin Hertzberg
By Dr Martin Hertzberg
Via ICECAP
Martin Hertzberg 2009, “Earth’s radiative equilibrium in the solar irradiance”, Energy & Environment v.20 no.1&2, pp.85-96 (Special double-issue: Natural drivers of weather and climate, 278p.)
“Many interacting regions, both homogeneous and heterogeneous, are involved in the complex radiative balance. Unverified models do not realistically represent that balance, and it would be absurd to base public policy decisions on them.
“… the controlling factor in determining the average temperature of the Earth is its absorptivity to emissivity ratio.
Even for those portions of Earth that are not covered with clouds, the assumption that the ocean surface, land surfaces, or ice and snow cover would all have blackbody emissivities of unity, is unreasonable.
It is certainly true that in the absence of an atmosphere, temperatures would drop drastically at night as the darkened portions of Earth lost infrared energy by radiation to Space; however, with all the incoming solar radiation being concentrated on the daytime half of the surface, daytime temperatures would rise as drastically as the night time temperatures would fall.
If the near-surface air temperature is not representative, is it realistically possible to measure the average temperature of the entire mass of absorbing and emitting entities with sufficient accuracy to make a meaningful comparison between the data and the predictions?
How high in altitude should one go in the atmosphere to include it all?
Similarly, how deep in the liquid fluid of the oceans should one go in order to include the mass below the ocean surface that influences the heat and mass transport processes near the ocean surface and in the atmosphere above it?”
“… looking at the problem in depth, it may be more realistic to conclude that its resolution may be unattainable given our limited understanding of the complex processes involved, and the lack of data available for the current thermodynamic state of those entities.
The heat and mass transport from that enormous ocean reservoir to the atmosphere are the dominant factors in determining temperatures and weather conditions over the entire globe.
It is implausible to expect that small changes in the concentration of any minor atmospheric constituent such as carbon dioxide, can significantly influence that radiative equilibrium.
Further quotes by this accomplished research scientist:
“In 1994 I tried to get an analysis of the then prevalent state of climate science published in Nature and Science, but they weren’t interested. I even sent a copy of it with a long letter to Burt Bolin, who was then chair of the IPCC. He replied to the effect that who was I to challenge the decades of work of so many distinguished scientists. He also argued that I was being disrespectful by referring to the some of the theories of the global warming advocates as “catechisms”. After studying the issue more carefully and reading the well researched papers of the skeptics/realists, I now think that the AGW arguments do not deserve to be referred to as either “theories” or “catechisms”. In reality, they are elaborate hoaxes.”
“I tried explaining to [those] Senators that in order for them to accept the Gore-IPCC-Hansen theory as valid, they will first have to repeal the Second Law of Thermodynamics!”
Compiled by Hans Schreuder, 7 September 2009
Collapse of Climate Alarmism by Professor Will Alexander September 9, 2009
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Collapse of Climate Alarmism by Will Alexander
Via Climate Realists
September 7, 2009
Climate alarmism is on its deathbed.
A summary of the whole climate change charade is in the attached Memo 27/09.
As always feel free to pass this on to anybody who has an interest.
Regards,
Will
By the end of this year the whole charade of climate alarmism will be in tatters. These are some examples of the events leading up to Copenhagen in December from CCNet with acknowledgement, followed by my interpretations…
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Global science or global panic? September 8, 2009
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Global science or global panic?
by Des Moore
Quadrant Online, September 7, 2009
Global Warming – The Case for an Independent Inquiry
In June Climate Change Minister Penny Wong effectively acknowledged the existence of a scientific view rejecting the thesis that a dangerous increase in temperatures will occur unless government action is taken to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases, particularly CO2. This is the first time a government minister with environmental responsibilities has done so formally (as distinct from dismissing such views out of hand). Minister Wong did this by agreeing to respond to three questions posed by Senator Fielding on the interpretations of temperature movements since 1998 and of temperature levels in the past, and on the reliability of models used to project temperature levels.
Following a discussion with the Senator (who was advised by four scientists with considerable relevant expertise in climatology) at which a background paper by two of her scientific advisers was circulated, Wong sent Fielding a written reply to those questions. The four scientists advising Senator Fielding subsequently (on 11 August) published a “Due Diligence” critique of both the background paper and Wong’s written reply. This critique raises serious questions about the credibility of the analysis and provides justification for the Government to establish a public inquiry (it is remarkable that there has been none) into whether there is a sound scientific basis for introducing an emissions reduction policy. Recognising that there has been a polarising of views in the scientific community, Fielding’s four advisers argued that:
proper due diligence … can only be achieved where competent scientific witnesses are cross-examined under oath and under strict rules of evidence.
I have been arguing for about two years for some kind of independent inquiry into the scientific basis of IPCC reports and, notwithstanding arguments by IPCC believers that their case has been strengthening over time, it now seems difficult to deny that various recent developments have weakened their case very significantly. My assessment is not based primarily on scientific analysis but on many years in Treasury and outside of analysing proposals for government intervention to solve perceived “crises”. Much analysis of the present proposal requires little more than common sense. Listed below are substantive questions, in staccato form, to which satisfactory answers justifying intervention to reduce emissions of CO2 have not been provided.
Relevant is that claims of the existence of a scientific consensus as reflected in IPCC reports fail to recognise that the IPCC itself undertakes no scientific research. Its key public document (“Summary for Policy Makers”) has been drafted by government appointed officials often drawn from environmental departments or agencies. While these officials draw on submissions by scientists, they are able to select analyses with which they are sympathetic. There is thus a sense in which the claimed consensus simply reflects the views of those sympathetic to the belief in dangerous threats of rising temperatures.
Moreover, consensus claims are much more difficult to sustain than they were a couple of years ago as more and more qualified scientists publicly reject or question the thesis in IPCC reports. The latest of many such groups comprises the more than 60 German scientists, including some who had made submissions to the IPCC, who on 26 July sent a letter to Chancellor Merkel asking for the convening of an impartial panel to review the latest climate science developments, stating that “humans have had no measurable role on global warming through CO2 emissions in temperature”, and accusing the IPCC of completely ignoring facts of which it had to have been aware. Well over 30,000 scientists from a range of countries have made similar public statements.
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“Climate Control” or “Be Prepared”: Which Shall We Choose? September 7, 2009
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“Climate Control” or “Be Prepared”: Which Shall We Choose?
The Carbon Sense Coalition
September 6, 2009
There are two ways to cope with climate change – you can try to control the climate and thus change the future, or you can be prepared to adapt to or cope with whatever the future brings. The choice is “Climate Control” or “Be Prepared”.
“Climate Control” has a number of problems.
Firstly, there is no evidence that man’s activities do indeed control global temperature – all we have are unproven theories and computer model forecasts. Therefore whatever we do may have no effect on climate…
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Arctic ice proves to be slippery stuff September 6, 2009
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Arctic ice proves to be slippery stuff
By Christopher Booker
The Telegraph, September 5, 2009
The extent of the sea-ice is now half a million square kilometres more than it was this time last year, says Christopher Booker.
BBC viewers were treated last week to the bizarre spectacle of Mr Ban
Ki-moon standing on an Arctic ice-floe making a series of statements so laughable that it was hard to believe such a man can be Secretary-General of the UN. Thanks to global warming, he claimed, “100 billion tons” of polar ice are melting each year, so that within 30 years the Arctic could be “ice-free”. This was supported by a WWF claim that the ice is melting so fast that, by 2100, sea-levels could rise by 1.2 metres (four feet), which would lead to “floods affecting a quarter of the world”.
Everything about this oft-repeated item was propaganda of the silliest kind. Standing 700 miles from the Pole, as near as the stubbornly present ice would allow his ship to go, Mr Ban seemed unaware that, although some 10 million square kilometres (3.8 million square miles) of sea-ice melts each summer, each September the Arctic starts to freeze again. And the extent of the ice now is 500,000 sq km (190,000 sq m) greater than it was this time last year – which was, in turn, 500,000 sq km more than in September 2007, the lowest point recently recorded (see the Cryosphere Today website). By April, after months of darkness, it will be back up to 14 million sq km (5.4 million sq m) or more.
Mr Ban seems equally unaware that, even if all that sea-ice were to melt, this would no more raise sea-levels than a cube of ice melting in a gin and tonic increases the volume of liquid in the glass. If he is relying for his “100 billion tons” on land ice melting in Antarctica and Greenland, he should note that much of their ice sheets are growing rather than shrinking. His “100 billion tons” is fantasy.
Similarly worthy of the Booker Prize for fiction was WWF’s claim that sea levels might rise by four feet (twice the most extreme guess by those UN computer models), let alone the ludicrous claim that this would flood “a quarter of the world”. But Mr Ban was indulging in this childish publicity stunt for the same reason the BBC, the Royal Society and others have lately been banging on about various mad schemes for “climate engineering”, such as putting up vast mirrors in space to keep out the sun’s rays or lining our motorways with artificial trees to suck deadly CO2 out of the air, to be taken away and buried in holes in the ground.
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VALIDITY OF CLIMATE CHANGE FORECASTING FOR PUBLIC POLICY DECISION MAKING September 5, 2009
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VALIDITY OF CLIMATE CHANGE FORECASTING FOR PUBLIC POLICY DECISION MAKING
Via NZ Climate Science
September 3, 2009
“Using the IPCC warming rate for our demonstration, we projected the rate successively over a period analogous to that envisaged in their scenario of exponential CO2 growth—the years 1851 to 1975. The errors from the projections were more than seven times greater than the errors from the benchmark method. Relative errors were larger for longer forecast horizons.” – Kesten C Green, Scott Armstrong and Willie Soon in paper to be published in International Journal of Forecasting.
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NASA: Are Sunspots Disappearing? September 4, 2009
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Are Sunspots Disappearing?
NASA
September 3, 2009
September 3, 2009: The sun is in the pits of the deepest solar minimum in nearly a century. Weeks and sometimes whole months go by without even a single tiny sunspot. The quiet has dragged out for more than two years, prompting some observers to wonder, are sunspots disappearing?
“Personally, I’m betting that sunspots are coming back,” says researcher Matt Penn of the National Solar Observatory (NSO) in Tucson, Arizona. But, he allows, “there is some evidence that they won’t.”
Penn’s colleague Bill Livingston of the NSO has been measuring the magnetic fields of sunspots for the past 17 years, and he has found a remarkable trend. Sunspot magnetism is on the decline:

Above: Sunspot magnetic fields measured by Livingston and Penn from 1992 – Feb. 2009 using an infrared Zeeman splitting technique. [more]
“Sunspot magnetic fields are dropping by about 50 gauss per year,” says Penn. “If we extrapolate this trend into the future, sunspots could completely vanish around the year 2015.”
This disappearing act is possible because sunspots are made of magnetism. The “firmament” of a sunspot is not matter but rather a strong magnetic field that appears dark because it blocks the upflow of heat from the sun’s interior. If Earth lost its magnetic field, the solid planet would remain intact, but if a sunspot loses its magnetism, it ceases to exist.
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The Scientists Speak Video Archive September 3, 2009
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The Scientists Speak Video Archive
Via Co2 Science
September 2, 2009
A Great Role for Coal
Developing countries need it now, to help lift them out of life-wasting poverty and body-breaking labor. Featuring Dr. Ross McKitrick, University of Guelph, Canada.
Wind farms may fool forecasters September 2, 2009
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Wind farms may fool forecasters
NZ Herald
September 2, 2009

As long as meteorologists know where the wind farms are they are less likely to cause issues. Photo / Supplied
Moving turbine blades can look a lot like a thunderstorm or even a tornado on radar
Storm clouds are gathering on the horizon for New Zealand weather forecasters, as the number of wind farms grow.
Wind farms generate a storm-like appearance on weather radars, which has caused incorrect forecasts overseas and is now prompting predictions of similar problems here.
Doppler radars used by meteorologists detect storms by picking up movement in the air, MetService chief forecaster Rob Stainer said.
Stationary objects such as buildings and mountain ranges were easily filtered out, but moving wind turbine blades could look a lot like a thunderstorm or even a tornado on the radar.
Problems seemed to occur when wind farms and radar stations were set up within about 18km of one another.
It could cause some serious issues – a tornado alert was recently issued in the United States after a particularly active wind farm was misinterpreted by one meteorologist.
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